don't know if thats really neccesary but they look cool. [Question] Vibrola vs. Bigsby on SG? 5 out of 5 stars (3) 3 product ratings - Bigsby B7 Vibrato Kit Chrome 0868013005. Maestro always feels a bit more stiff to me and it feels like it has a bit more range. If you have guitar related questions, use the "Search" field or ask the community. Bigsby B7 Vibrato Kit Chrome 0868013005. Allparts Bigsby B7 Vibrato Tailpiece. Bigsby or Maestro Vibrola for my SG? I have a B5 on my solid body Talman and a B7 on my sh Talman. ... KAISH Gold Guitar Roller Saddle Bridge Tune-O-Matic Bridge For Gibson Les Paul,SG,ES Dot,Gretsch Bigsby Guitar with M4 Threaded Posts 4.3 out of 5 stars 102. By 10 crowbone 9 months ago My '73 looks like this when the Bigsby was on. In standard usage, tremolo is a rapid fluctuation of the volume of a note, while vibrato is a fluctuation in pitch. The Gibson designs did not have the impact of the Bigsby and Fender … folks can the trem fitted to the gibson historic sg/or angus young model be replaced with a bigsby without leaving three big ugly holes on the bodys top? Paste as plain text instead, × 1Set Long Verson Maestro Vibrola Vibrato Tremolo Bridge for Gisbon SG LP Style Guitar Replacement (silvers(china)) $99.00. Now you can install a Bigsby® Vibrato on your carved top Les Paul® guitar without drilling any holes! The long version replaces a trapeze-style tailpiece, such as found on most archtop guitars, and transmits the string tension to the guitar side. Attach the Maestro vibrola to the guitar with a screwdriver using the provided screws, and tighten. Bigsbys look best on a Gretsch IMO. Vibramate Dual Access Brass Saddles! I think it's a real classy lookin' vibrato setup. I stripped my G400 a while back with the intention to rebuild and the selection of bridges I have as replacements do not fit.   Pasted as rich text. Reviews. vibrola unit, bigsby whatever. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. We have a clear preference and would choose the Maestro every time. Thanks for visiting. The Maestro gets a lot of criticism and it's no wonder given the inconsistency in the different options, and the fact they are a complete crapshoot as regards break angle. I just can't decide whether to put on a Vibrola or Bigsby trem. Upload or insert images from URL. Although overshadowed by Bigsbys and the various Fender systems, the Maestro is actually a very usable and impressively stable whammy bar. Vibrato Tailpieces While all guitar tremolo systems are technically "vibrato" systems, in the guitar industry the term has become synonymous with early production Bigsby® tailpieces or later production Gibson® "Vibrola" tailpieces. Restring the guitar.----- I'm an expert on guitars and tremolo bar/bridges/parts and this my fun, part time job. For authenticity in its reissue series, Gibson has put the Vibrola back into production. SG's and Bigsbys are a perfect match. Designed for Telecaster Guitars with Bigsby Vibratos! However for the SG I was looking at a B3 with the Towner mounting kit. Display as a link instead, × it helps to put some graphite in the nut. (And, FWIW, this Vibrola was NOT inferior to a Bigsby!) Only 3 left. Thankfully Towner also sells replacement studs for the Epiphone that will work with their system. A few testimonials: 9 Bryan K. 9 months ago Ordered an Epi standard 61, non-vibrola. What's that you've got on the headstock? Brand New. I am a nut for trem so I definitely want to install a system on this guitar. Bigsby - while not as authentic in my mind, I know that this will be doable without drilling holes. I really don't like the way a bigsby looks on an SG, for me an SG is pure rock and bigsby's are more rockabilly, if that makes any sense. © 1995-2019 Harmony Central, Inc. All rights reserved. I suppose these are to help with tuning stability. I am not going for dive bombs, just subtle vibrato. :D. Yeah, I’m aware.   You cannot paste images directly. (11) 11 product ratings - NEW - Genuine Bigsby B5 Kit For Flat Top Guitars, 086-8013-003. The Maestro appears to be part of the design - the lines of the cover are more in keeping with the sleekness of the guitar. Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by RomanS, Nov 18, 2010. I'd say leave the holes, that's what Townshend did when he replaced the maestro on his specials for a stop tail. I'd also be concerned that once installed, the mounting holes from the stop tailpiece will be visible and ugly. New Ground Wire, Nut, Roller Bridge. I also feel the maestros LOOK cooler although I'm mostly worried about performance. Since the early 1960s, Gibson have marketed a number of vibrato system designs under the name "Vibrola". More loose, but also more subtle. i've had both an sg deluxe (70s) and a tele with bigsby b5. I just picked up an Epiphone G-400 with a stop tailpiece. BUT PERSONALLY, id rather have a maestro, they look way better IMH r you could go for the b7 on an sg: This is a forum where guitarists, from novice to experienced, can explore the world of guitar through a variety of media and discussion. Bigsby's are notoriously stable. Used on some Maestro vibrola builds. The earliest concepts of roller bridges take us back to the early 1960s with the further development of Bigsby vibrato tailpieces and the early version of the Maestro Vibrola. $114.99. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Bigsby® B7 vibrato with tension bar, no bridge, solid body and thin archtop guitars. $23.99. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. You can post now and register later. Featured ListingView Listing. I am a nut for trem so I definitely want to install a system on this guitar. Follow this Product. Very nice.   Your link has been automatically embedded. I have a vibramate kit and B5 installed on my Tele and I am very happy with it. and nickel? Buy New. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Discussion in 'Gibson SG' started by paultheaxe, Jul 10, 2012. paultheaxe New Member.   Your previous content has been restored. thanks # 2.972.923 Posts: 2631 Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:37 am Location: Canada Gibson Exclusive SG Original Electric Guitar (with Maestro Vibrola and Case) No longer available at zZounds The SG Original nails the vibe of one of history's most desirable SG Standards with a slim '60s neck profile, '57 Classic humbuckers and a vibrola tailpiece. i want to know if the vibrola's holes could be hidden,maybe by fitting a B7? The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Attach the cover plate to the base, securing with the small provided screws, and attach the arm. Only 10 left in stock - order soon. so go with the bigsby for performance? Sell One Like This; Listings Price Guide. I prefer not to drill holes in the guitar in case I want to take off the trem system and sell the guitar down the road. Vibrola - this is more authentic to me, but information is sparse on how to install one but it seems that drilling is required. Welcome to r/guitar, a community devoted to the exchange of guitar related information and entertainment. Powered by Invision Community. Free shipping. Bigsby is the opposite. $199.99. The Bigsby looks really clunky, and like it was just stuck on there. ... Bigsby B7 Vibramate V7335g, Allparts Roller Saddle Bridge, BoltOn 4 Gibson. Pretty exact to Gibson Maestro Vibrola look and feel without lyre. Allparts Long Vibrola Maestro Tremolo Tailpiece Nickel & Roller Bridge 4 Gibson SG, ES335, firebird. Cosmetics wise, installation ease? But you’re right that I don’t want to do anything to the guitar that isn’t easily reversible. Will probably go with the Towner B3 set up. Long Gibson® style vibrato with arm and cover. Vibrola tailpieces include a licensed version of the Bigsby vibrato tailpiece, earlier version of Maestro Vibrola using roller bridge (U.S. Patent 3,124,991 filed in 1961, issued in 1964), and several in-house Gibson … Well, that might hurt Bigsby lovers feelings so I'm not going to go there, yet an honest look at the mechanics involved has to impress upon the observer that a B5 simply is more complicated & involved than a spring steel Maestro Vibrola. Free shipping. with a bigsby you have the "vibramate option" where you buy the vibramate plate and you wont have to drill any gnarly holes in your instrument. this kicks the shite out of a standard SG reissue, the Angus SG is nothing more than an SG standard with "Angus" pickups (pure hype) and a worthless bridge, the 61 Reissue pwns the standard and Angus, the historic SG standard also comes in a stop tail version (great guitar btw), you can take the stop bar off, leaving to 1/4 inch holes (something like that) these holes can be filled with dowel and painted, you can then put the bigsby on, there are a few members here who have SG's with bigsby's, to be honest the vibrola works fine,but i love bigsbys esp SG's fitted with em, and like you said a standard would leave two big holes were the stud went if i fitted a bigsby to that. And what kind of nut? © 1995-2019 Harmony Central, Inc. All rights reserved. For other vibrato systems like those more commonly seen on Fender® guitars, please visit our Tremolo Bridges page. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. When I A/B'd the vibrola vs wraparound tailpiece on my '65 Special , the tone suckin vibrola went on the auction block. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The Purpose of a Roller Bridge However it is my SG which needs a vibrato system and it seems that the main systems for it are the Bigsby and the Maestro Vibrola. I have never tried a Maestro and I was wondering which one to go with since Gibsons usually come stock with the Maestro and they would choose something good to fit that guitar. Fancy trapeze tailpiece for ES-175® new style, 2" string spacing, 5-1/4" long. To me the Maestro Vibrola is the only only that looks good on an SG and is the classic setup for most 60's early 70's SG's. × The Vibrolas didn’t hold up well under exceptionally heavy use, though they can be visually appealing. folks can the trem fitted to the gibson historic sg/or angus young model be replaced with a bigsby without leaving three big ugly holes on the body's top? you'd want to use the B5 bigsby, but I don't know the answer to the question about holes (I'm not sure how the maestro is mounted). mr benn, March 24, 2006 in Electric Guitars. Recently been looking at pickup covers since they come without. I have used two vibrato (“tremolo”) systems before, Floyd Rose which I dislike and the Jazzmaster which I really do like. they work pretty well, but you will definitely be tuning your guitar much more than if you had a stop tailpiece. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Maybe someone can help here. Vibramate Original Super Grip! ok - point taken - but what is of concern here is whether the bigsby is a big improvement over the maestro. why would you want to put a bigsby on it, I would cringe!! Bigsby is the best, bar none, but I personally think that the Maestro looks better on SG's than a Bigsby. I do like them on Gretches though. Thanks. Let me know if you want to sell your Maestro. Reverb Bump. It also drives me nuts that Bigsby's don't have a full 360 degree arm and the arm is short. The prices seem to be in the same ballpark for both so I am having trouble deciding. Tuning stability is most important, followed by ease of use. But I was wondering about Maestros and Bigsbys. The Bigsby was the first successful design of what is now called a whammy bar or tremolo arm, although vibrato is the technically correct term for the musical effect it produces. Testing how well the Gibson Lyre style trems take dive bombing and other kinds of abuse without going out of tune. the vibrola. Vibrola tailpieces include a licensed version of the Bigsby vibrato tailpiece, earlier version of Maestro Vibrola using roller bridge (U.S. Patent 3,124,991 filed in 1961, issued in 1964), and several in-house Gibson designs. The best place to start if you're new is right below in our "Rules" section. Gibson Short Flange Mount Vibrola Nickel New (For SG Junior, Explorer, Firebird and Flying V) Most Vibrola tailpieces, including the Bigsby, Lyre and Maestro, exist in both long and short versions. Since early-1960s, Gibson have marketed a number of vibrato system designs under the name "Vibrola", after preceding guitar-shaped Gibson Vibra-Rest and Bigsby option offered since 1950s. We could see these pieces on some of Gretsch and Gibson guitars. Clear editor. In contrast, the Sideways Vibrola adds considerable mass for little or no practical gain. I am not going for dive bombs, just subtle vibrato. 10. B7's are designed for semi-hollows, B5's for solids. Tailpieces. well i haven't bought it yet,but i love it,great neck,amazing sound but it's got the maestro and i'm not too big a fan it looks cool but isn't great for holding a tune (i think the bigsby is a little better). Parts. INSTALLING A LONG MAESTRO VIBROLA. I think the B3 looks better on the SG than the B5. Joined: Dec 27, 2008 Messages: 25 Likes Received: 4. The weight of the Bigsby counteracts the tendency of SG's to be neck-heavy. I haven't done this, but just a heads up that an Epiphone may have different mounting studs than a Gibson. Search on: Maestro Vibrola for SG. % TP-0420 Fancy Trapeze Tailpiece for ES-175 from $110.00 . Comparing any trem to a hardtail is silly. i think it's mounted by three screws which are right under were the retainer bar would be if i put a bigsby on,but i'm not sure? but if its the custom shop historic SG, which costs something like 2500 (?) Can someone please tell me the advantages/ disadvantages, and if the maestros on ebay are ok? Guitar Parts. I have tried the Bigsby B5 and that was quite nice. I just can't decide whether to put on a Vibrola or Bigsby trem. × Both rarely go out of tune. Allparts. What do you guys think? % BP-0405 Spring for Bigsby® Tremolo ... Used on some Maestro vibrola builds. The Maestro Vibrola worked in the same manner as a Bigsby and was used primarily as a cost-cutting feature, as the company had to buy Bigsbys. As used throughout the early/mid 1960s on Gibson SG Special, SG Junior, SG-TV, Melody maker and Kalamazoo KG guitars.By the end of the decade, it had altered somewhat with an additional 'hold down bar' and new handle design. So often I see bad mounting jobs of a Bigsby where to even play it you have to pick very very close to the bridge. $149.99. Now you can install a Bigsby® B7 Vibrato on your Arch Top guitar in minutes without drilling any holes! I just picked up an Epiphone G-400 with a stop tailpiece. 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