That's the other thing to note.. hide. Injector by a mile. It leaves you 1100 points, which is more than enough, to take powerful buffers (hello Tzeentch / Thousand Sons) and plenty of bodies for board control. The Lord of Skulls (formerly known as the Lord of Battle, colloquially known as The Rape Train) is a massive Daemon Engine of Khorne.Those tanks on its back store the blood of murderers, which get heated to boiling by the daemon's rage and then vented out through the chest-cannon (with various ranges, strengths, and so on depending on which one you get). Although seen as very egotistical by other Chaos forces, their use of deep strikes at the most vulnerable point in an enemy line has given them a predilection for preying on the weak, making them vicious hunters. Plus the cutter costs 16p while the injector is free. The Sicaran Battle Tank was an Imperial main battle tank and one of the most advanced armoured vehicles used by the Space Marine Legions during the Great Crusade and the Horus Heresyin the late 30th and early 31st Millennia. I haven't go my model so this all guesswork based on the website sprue pictures. Much like Terminator Armor, the Jump Packs used by Raptors are considered prized relics and badges of honour. Edited by helterskelter, 16 April 2019 - 06:37 PM. Especially if you take the Baleflamer, eliminating the downside completely. There’s nothing wrong with Autocannons in general but I’ve found this is a guy I am … Natfka 4/01/2019. Thank you to the reader that sent this in. I think the Baleflamer is what I'm going with on one of these units. The injector is a single S8 AP-4 D1d3 attack you can do every turn when you are in melee and has chance to do additional mortal wounds against vehicles. autocannon, its cheaper. I don't expect the LD is going anywhere, and I've got a lot of work to do on other new CSM stuff I've already picked up. Since the release of 8th edition, it seems like the followers of every single Chaos god have gotten love. … I know you're playing thematically but man... you could really benefit from a MoP in that type of list. Here is his datasheet to take a look at his rules. I like to think of threat in terms of redundancy. This Dread CCW comes equipped with a twin-linked Bolter by default, and can be replaced by a Heavy Flamer for a surprisingly low points-cost. Page 2 of 2 - Lord Discordant Load Out. Now in my last article I mentioned that there is a unit in the chaos codex that can generate an insane number of attacks. In my army i'm using Abby as the warlord and the DL as a field commander with the extra movement trait from the soulforged pack. 1 year ago. It really is a shame it's so steep in cost but I still think it's better suited to his role. Thing is, it's auto-hit so it's not doing anything to stop you from being a melee monster and any moment you're not in melee or getting charged your can pour out some good damage. You can't run him in a vaccuum and you need to build your army around melee as a threat,rather than a particular unit as a threat. Flawless host with all the trinkets, plus herald/diabolic etc At that time Jump Packs were a rarity, and they were usually only issued to elite units of Space Marines. Maybe use the dark abeyant from the FW archmagos kit? Then either Intoxicating Elixir for more attacks or Fleshmetal Exoskeleton for regeneration. While the model is amazing i'm not sold on the rules. … People have asked me at the store why I use the Venomcrawler considering my view/experiences with them... simply put the model is extremely cool and the Defiler still reminds me of a washing machine on crab legs. This is the best codex option to run with the L.D. The half damage trait would be good too. I do like the idea of the elixir for one, The Sightless Helm sounds brutal with him. Ive also just used the Shadowspear CSM loadout for now.++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [56 PL, … So I guess I'll be fielding it as the one dude leading a bunch of other daemon engines no matter how suboptimal that is. The Thunderhawk gunship was first developed for service in the Legiones Astartes during the later days of the Emperor's Great Crusade in the final century of the 30th Millennium. first time in 40k's history, Grandfather Nurgle's favorite pus-sacks have gotten their own Codex, and it's a solid mix of the fluffy and crunchy Today Peteypab, Geoff, Sean, and The Falcon analyze the results from 6 GTs and then discuss how to leverage clever CP management and Stratagem use into winning a competitive 40k game. Or with diabolic strength on, 6 base, 14 full, 42 regularly or 56 vs imperial. I also plan to run mine with a Decimator thug bodyguard armed with at least one Hellflamer, so I might have a bit of extra bias. on the charge. So it's extremely easy target priority for your opponent to remove him first, and then even if some of your other engines manage to hit combat afterwords they're doing so at dramatically reduced effectiveness. Warlord trait explodes 6's not once but thrice, so there's a potential, in this very particular vacuum, for 39 attacks. Xenomancers. I understand 9th just came out, and we don't know how it will be. Adam, from TFG Radio, back with another article to help with the information overload that is competitive 40K. I've actually thought of taking multiple LD considering how choppy they are. But that's my current plan on load out for when I get around to him. These machine-obsessed Heretic Astartesscuttle across the battlefield atop Helstalker mounts, a palpable aura of anarchy exuding from their very being. This week – the Chaos Marine buzzsaw – the Lord Discordant. Just finished putting together mine first LD and im surprised by how small he is. Lord Discordants can be a handful–they require constant attention, need a specialized diet of enemy vehicles, and need to be walked at least twice a game. Page 1 of 2 - Lord Discordant Load Out. How many games have you played with your Lord Disco? IMO. Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare Im of the line of thinking that the the half all damage warlord trait is the best way to run him. Oooh, now that is cool news! 1 year ago. But that's a pretty pricey FW model, and while it looks good in itself, it isn't as properly mutated & daemonic as the actual model. Honestly, I'd be a lot more excited about the unit if it were a lot weaker in terms of personal offense, with few enough wounds to avoid being picked out by non-snipers and either an decreased points cost or increased support abilities (WS style healing?) hide. Stick with injector or swap for magma cutter? Here are five tips and tricks for the care and feeding of your Lord Discordant. If you're playing hardcore Khorne, I understand. Subject: Lord Discordant needs to be fixed. I think you can make a case for mixed-loadout Helbrutes that come in at <100pts with a Combi. S11 beasty attacks I'm finding his detachment relic is a bit of a red herring.... in 8th your opponent is not going to move into base you in assault if they have a clue what they're doing. You can unsubscribe at any time. VERY annoying. 11 comments. Last update was at 2019/04/12 15:35:43 : 2019/04/12 16:45:16 Subject: Keeping Lord Discordant … 2. to balance him out. Run a detachment with two disco lords, and a demon prince as the warlord. The Lord Disco is good though, but not quite as good as I hoped. If you're looking for conversion fodder, maybe mauler fiends? On paper, the Chaos Dreadnought is amazingsave for one major flaw (which is described in detail below) - same cost as a loyalist Dreadnought, with one more attack. I finally just got a jump lord and don't know how to load him out. I know its already out there in misc spots, but still thank you for sending it in for the readers here. Really do wish Lord Discordant got the legion trait tho. Come visit my website for unit reviews, battle reports and army discussions. The resources required to produce one were immense, equal perhaps even to an Imperial Knight. Those 7 attacks are probably going to hit…and have a pretty good shot at wounding a bunch. I'm running two (considering dropping the Dark Apostle for good). I understand 9th just came out, and we don't know how it will be. lol. I'd definitely go with the flamer as well. My hypothesis was to cut the weapon handle and glue it on the mechadentris, then magnetise the handle since they are pretty much identical on both weapons. I think I'm capping my list at 2. The problem is, there's nothing a Maulerfiend can't do that a Blood Slaughterer or another Lord Discordant can't do better. Anyone planning to use a maulerfiend as a base will be vastly oversized. Anyone planning to use a maulerfiend as a base will be vastly oversized. I am building the other with the cheaper option. I wanted him to be a reason to run (and finish painting) the daemon engines I already have. report. Lord Discordant on Helstalker. If the DL is the only powerful melee unit, then ya, totally, he's getting wrecked, but i think thats more an issue of list design than a problem with the unit. In terms of survivability, i think its the same deal as with all, powerful melee units. Talisman of Burning Blood for run & charge with rerolls is super tempting, especially since I won't be able to use Abaddon for extra CPs or a CoT sorcerer or apostle with the CP refunding trait. The harpoon is a little nastier now, as it halves movement on any target hit until the start of your next Shooting phase in addition to giving you +2 to charge rolls against that unit. It isn't a list thing.. it's the fact he is capable of being singled out, and once people know what he does, they would be crazy to ignore him in favour of taking out... a Venom Crawler or whatever. I disagree that putting more stuff around him makes him a little better. That's a lot of support you list that's far slower than he is. - posted in x HERETIC ASTARTES x: So I’ve played a few games with the new Daemon engine detachment and proxied the LD as a dual HQ option. The really good news is that this guy dropped 40 points in cost, and is now much more worth consideration as a buddy for something like a Lord Discordant. Chaos Space Marines look like Marines, but don’t let that fool you: They lack many of the tricks that Space Marine armies have, with none of the benefits of Doctrines nor the range and shooting prowess. Kind of exactly what I was complaining about. Defiler. The Lord of Skulls (formerly known as the Lord of Battle, colloquially known as The Rape Train) is a massive Daemon Engine of Khorne.Those tanks on its back store the blood of murderers, which get heated to boiling by the daemon's rage and then vented out through the chest-cannon (with various ranges, strengths, and so on depending on which one you get). Your guy is more assault, and you don't want your opponent to remove models from the front to make your charge longer. Lots of volume here, and no one really plays the Castellan outside of Tournament practice and lascannons are not a thing here. Slaanesh Daemons are back, and here to stay in 9th Edition. It's just a more "exciting" weapon than the regular old autocannon. That's a lot of support you list that's far slower than he is. I would’ve considered a lascannon or reaper auto cannon if they had been an option... Right now my lists feature 2 of them. share. 2 s8 tendrils The thing is I’ve been playing a lot of different lists and I’m finding super heavies with Daemon Engine key words are working far better for me. I will say in all honesty that I have not tried the half damage Trait. 164. Honestly, if I had the option I wouldn't take a ranged weapon on him at all. Cut off the tongue and replace it with a stabby implement, use the lash/tendrils to convert a long stabby tail plus maybe some tendrils for a rider built out of new CSMs or Havocs? The Lord Discordant siphons off the pained spirit of the dying technology. On one arm they wield fearsome reaper chain-cleavers, their adamantium teeth whirring and actuator motors roaring. that way you can lose an LD or two and still see an LD or two hit melee. Raptors are a debased form of the Jump Pack-equipped Astartes who fought as part of the Space Marine Legions who turned Traitor during the Horus Heresyof the 31st Millennium. So far I’ve been playing the Autocannon because he does have a WS of 2 but it’s really proven to be lethargic. The Possessed definitely need this, the Raptors are better with a full buy in, even this Daemon Engine detachment needs a larger buy in for success. The harpoon is a little nastier now, as it halves movement on any target hit until the start of your next Shooting phase in addition to giving you +2 to charge rolls against that unit. He’s got a ton of high-strength attacks, good Movement, and gives himself bonuses to hit with his aura, meaning he triggers Death to the False Emperor on a 5+. An ancient pic-capture of several Thunderhawk gunships of the Sons of Horus Legion in flight during the Istvaan III Atrocity. Hes basically an extended juggerlord, with the torso of the helstalker being almost identical to a juggernaught body (extended to fit an extra pair of legs at the back). Any thoughts on relics or WL for him? As a side note we're always using two large pieces of terrain in the center but it's quite easy to get lanes of fire. I prefer relics that... don't rely on opponent's not knowing what they do. I woder if I can convert a Venomcrawler....I seem to be not using mine as much. I don't play against gunline armies that don't have a lot of chaff so it's really risky to launch him into your opponent in those games. At least, once I get around to picking him up. So, if the LD gets killed on turn 1, its highly likely that the bloodthirsters and berzerkers are making it into combat on my turn, and similiarly if one of the other units gets killed. I don't find either particularly exciting but I'd definitely go with the injector over the cutter. Anyone planning to use a maulerfiend as a base will be vastly oversized. Spend a pre-game command point to make the DL a field commander and the we can take a warlord trait. I'll also go with the flamer, likewise more for aesthetic reasons than anything else. He's basically an extended juggerlord, with the torso of the helstalker being almost identical to a juggernaught body (extended to fit an extra pair of legs at the back). He's basically an extended juggerlord, with the torso of the helstalker being almost identical to a juggernaught body (extended to fit an extra pair of legs at the back). The LD should want you to run him with a couple venomcrawlers. On the other they bear menacing thermal spears, bulky melta weapons that are essentia Again this is because of Abaddon, however, I don't think I'd use it well in my meta. I've had about 5 games with single and dual Lord Disco's with an assortment of Daemon Engines. How exactly do you achieve the -4 to hit on the Lord Discordant? Raptors consider themselves as elite shock troops. What the LD's do well is buff more 'flexible' and potent units into delivering a little more damage and potency. Chainglaive s10 or s16 (if its additions before multiply now? Maybe I missed it, but has anyone tried rushing him into melee using a bike sorcerer to reduce the shots fired at him? So, as the opposing player you have quite a few things to think about shooting. Daemon Engines with a side order of Possessed - posted in Chaos Army Lists: Ok guys, Im really working on a very rough theme here and Im going with points that Ive heard online for the Discordant Lord as 180 with Baleflamer and 160 with Autocannon. Speaking of his size, i was surprised when i picked up the box and saw how little it was. I've had bizarre games with them though. Which might be all I need if I go first. Above all else... the Injector is the best thing you have going against Knights, etc. My thinking wasn't just that he has some engines around him and so people might not shoot him, its that he has some engines around him, and a bloodthirster, and a rhino full of berzerkers and Khârn. (14+D6)+(14+D6)+2D6 for (28+4D6)" melee threat range, average of 42". I finally just got a jump lord and don't know how to load him out. All that grousing aside (boo hoo hoo, our new unit is /too/ strong), The model's too cool to not own or never run, and it's too particular (not posable, no options to change up the rider's appearance) for me to ever want to own more than one no matter how much he wants to hang out with two more of himself in a set of identical triplets. And in the event I don’t want to spend North of 400 on a non Daemon engine Knight, I’m finding a Lord Discordant and a few basic codex war machines with Daemon rules actually go a lot further now. Still probably won't run him as often as a regular council of traitors, and probably won't even buy him until I have a council of traitors list put together. But, on the other hand, the Bloodthirster gives all my demon engines (including the LD) charge rerolls, so thats pretty strong too (and the BT himself is no slouch). Beautiful. 164. Alluring. (Artwork Credit: Fantasy Flight Games) Slaanesh is, broadly speaking, an anti-melee melee army. That didn't really work in 8th Edition, which revolved competitively about bringing brutal shooting and consistently holding a limited number of objectives. As a Chaos Lord, you’re also re-rolling 1’s to hit and have a WS of 2+ anyhow. This message was edited 1 time. As it does so, its own metallic frame swells with ingested code and subroutines. I don't think you have to go as far as what you describe. save. Made available to the Legiones Astartesonly in limited quantities before the outbreak o… I do think the Venomcrawler still needs a point reduction. Talk about a glow-up. Page 31 of 36 - ++ The Bringers of Despair - A Black Legion Community ++ - posted in x BLACK LEGION x: What do you guys think the sightless helm is best used on? But again it's good for maybe one battle round?) ... Got the custom lord discordant. Then you could even use the same rider model as both a lord discordant on the abeyant and a regular warpsmith on foot? Lord Discordant Datasheet. The last one was last night against Deathguard. You will be based and unable to try to get more 'stuff' within his relic's sweet zone of 1". That will make a good distraction to soak up some fire. The Lord Discordant on Helstalker is a new option hitting the table for Chaos soon. A Lord Discordant is a deadly combatant in his own right, too. Deadly. It represents hybrid technologies, some of which it is believed date back to the Age of Strife, which rumours had it were created by the hand of the Emperordirectly. Again, he's the most dangerous thing he's buffing. How easy is the rider to modify...swapping heads or torso, that sort of thing? So far I was able to magnetize the head to swap head weapons but still stuck on the baleflamer/autocannon is there is no room for magnets on the mechedendrite claw. Any of these exploding in such a fashion is going to cause considerable pain. But while you technically can run him that way, its not really how he wants to run, since he's not only an easily targetable source of buffs, he's also the most dangerous thing he's buffing. Enter your email to get the very latest - news, promotions, hobby tips and more from Games Workshop. And yeah, while Khorne’s legions did get some sweet new models in Wrath and Rapture alongside Slaanesh, it’s hard not to feel like the Blood … I really wanted him to be an individual support platform leading an army of daemon engines, making various borderline engines good via his support. These earlier patterns of Jump Pack were rather more sophisticated and efficient than the ones commonly used by the Space Marines of the I… Its close-combat weapon can take a variety of forms (Many players like giving them Defiler claws, Chainfists, or giant sledgehammers), but regardless of what it is, it counts as a Dreadnought Close-Combat weapon. Now let's assume a vacuum of miraculous circumstance, +1 attack from the cloak, he's now got 5 base attacks, with a total of 13. He's fragile. Overview. I try to Psychically buff him.. it's really hard though. The readers here will be vastly oversized of Abaddon, however, i was when. 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